No matter what the sentence, emphasis is what makes the meaning so simply "reading" the Bible can't set all doctrine because we don't all read exactly the same.
If you can see, there has been a portion of this quote, which is a portion of the entire post that has been isolated because it is a statement which is completely against what the WORD OF GOD is for, and it places more emphasis on man's opinions than that of the WORD OF GOD. Here is the quote from the BIBLE (which we all should take heed of, more than someone's opinion, including wordworkers
2 Timothy 3:15-17 (King James Version)
15And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
READ VERSE 16, IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT WORD YOU "PUT EMPHASIS" ON, IT STILL STATES THAT THE WORD OF GOD IS WHERE WE AS CHILDREN OF GOD ARE TO GET ..."DOCTRINE, REPROOF, CORRECTION, AND INSTRUCTION IN RIGHTEOUSNESS."
ALSO IN II PETER 1:
16For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.
17For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
18And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.
19We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
20Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
ROMANS 8: 11 THIS VERSE GIVES AN EXPLANATION OF WHERE THE HOLY GHOST COMES FROM 11But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
IF YOU READ THE BOOK OF ACTS AND PAY CLOSE ATTENTION, YOU WILL FIND IN THE APOSTLE PETER'S SERMON AFTER HE CAME OUT OF THE UPPER ROOM WITH THE OTHER 119 PEOPLE, THAT HE (PETER) MAKES REFERENCE TO GOD RAISING JESUS FROM THE DEAD THREE TIMES. AND PETER ALSO SAID THAT THE PROPHET JOEL STATED, "THAT IN THE LAST DAYS, I WILL POUR OUT MY SPIRIT UPON ALL FLESH..."
SO, IF THE WORD OF GOD DOES NOT SET ALL DOCTRINE, AS THE WORD INDICATES THAT IT DOES, SEE THE VERSE THAT SAYS THAT NO SCRIPTURE IS OF ANY PRIVATE INTERPRETATION, WORDWORKER NEEDS TO GIVE THE SCRIPTURE THAT BACKS UP HER ASSERTIONS.
Well, I would have to agree with you on many points, but you highlighted one point I was attempting to make and may not have been clear on, that would be those that hold the OPINION that they are the only ones that hold the truth, that would definately be wrong. As far as the statement concerning denominations existing throughout the ages, this I would also have to agree with, there are classes and divisions in just about any group. Also, was not the church at Corinth jacked up for their "denominationalism?" Were they not called carnal, and likened to babies? Friend, we cannot base our doctrine upon men, and yes, the cruxifixion is the core, fundemental doctrine of the church, however, this is also a doctrine that is being put on the back burner. Today's "church" takes out the altar and replaces it with a skateboard ramp, instead of preaching Christ and Him Crucified, they have financial seminars and bingo parties. In my last post I was mostly trying to draw attention to those that strain at ridiculous formalities rather than salvation and reaching the lost world or edifying the body of Christ. I understand that people can come to different conclusions by straining on one word more than another, how they read, or their backround, much like the telephone game played by children. However, there are absolutes, to say otherwise would be ridiculous. I whole heartedly belive that if someone would read the Bible for what it says and set aside the doctrine of man they would be enlightened. Why not take things for what they say? We do this with other books outside the Bible. This is a statement similar to Finis Jennings Dake, though I do not agree with him on some points, he did make some good ones, agree with him or not. Also, not all that say they are believers are indeed believers, I would venture to say many people get the word acknowledge and believe crossed up, especially when referring to Christianity. If you believe something, there will be action behind that belief, an acknowledgement is nothing more than a mere utterance. For it is not only confession with the mouth, but also beliving in the heart. Hopefully, I have made myself clear, if it seems I have misconstrewed things feel free to post again. I ain't scared, and even welcome friendly debates.
"But I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified." I Cor. 2:2 Paul said.
Different denominations aren't as much of a problem as you seem to think. In Romans it is made clear that "If you believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, that God has raised Him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."
There were "denominations" even when Paul was preaching ... otherwise, why did he talk about one saying they followed Apollos and another Paul? Of course, they were much less set in stone than they are now but whenever you have three believers you'll have different "denominations."
The problems happen when one group of believers decides it has ALL the answers.
Try this little exercise: Read the following sentence emphasizing one word above the others and see the difference in meaning -- What am I doing? Then do the same for -- Does Jesus love me?
No matter what the sentence, emphasis is what makes the meaning so simply "reading" the Bible can't set all doctrine because we don't all read exactly the same.
On top of that imagine this: If you are a conservative who likes the old hymns and KJV, try imagining that every church only used contemporary music and NIV. If you enjoy singing contemporary "scripture" songs and the NIV, try imagining that every church only used hymns and the KJV. Because we are human we derive pleasure from different things, styles and approaches and God wants us to enjoy Him. "I came that you might have life and more abundantly," Jesus said.
So He allows us the pleasure of worshiping Him however He has created us ... with exuberance or with pageantry. Dancing in the Spirit or listening to "Ode to Joy". We can pray to Him with "thees and thous" or with "you". And we can use different translations (as long as they are true translations) so we can dig deeper into our personal studies.
That's all. Open up. Different people worship in different ways and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.
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"I had been eagerly planning to write to you about the salvation we all share. But now I find that I must write about something else, urging you to defend the faith that God has entrusted once for all time to His holy people." Jude 3 Joyce
Mostly speaking from personal conviction here, however, I believe denominations to be a big farce, just a delusion from the enemy himself, and I am in no way saying that true Christians should just become part of the big conglomeration of the so called Christian movement, or that all denominations should set down their doctrines. However, I believe that denominations tend to hold on to their denominational beliefs rather than the straight word of God, even when they are proven to be wrong. Now, we should have set doctrines, but they must not be just based on the Bible, but rather the Bible itself. I've seen too much of this non-traditional, Bible based junk floating around, they call it Bible based but very little, if any scripture is introduced, or they use multiple versions of the Bible, using "scripture" from the source they desire, which ever best backs up their conclusion, much like the Purpose Driven or Church Marketing crowd. Denominations seem to separate "the body" rather than unify or edify it. Does not the Bible tell us why there are divisions? A Christian should be separate from the world or unbeliever, but why so many gnat strainers at stuff that is just plain stupid. Such as the formula for baptism, I know the formula, H2O, or the use of one cup for the Lord's supper instead of many cups. Really, What's the deal? I may post more about the market driven church, or the as long as you believe in Jesus all other doctrines don't matter crowd, we'll see, I've never been a real big forum guy it seems points don't get proved a whole lot on these things, people's minds are like concrete, all mixed up and set in place like a stone.
