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wordworker · Lifelong Friend of the Ministry

RE: Pentecostals Only?

Christian Commando · Great Friend of the Ministry

Sojourner-

Was is mean't by "stage performances"? Is this by chance relating to the more upbeat singing, dancing and different types of music used in Charismatice and Pentecostal Services?

If so, and others use these true Biblical commands as excuses to claim falsehoods, I ask all concerned with this to read Ps. 149:1- sing a new song of praise unto the Lord in the congregation of Saints- (in Church). This includes the newer style of music heard today. (No guidelines of God against it here or anywhere else in Scriptures).

vs 3- "Let them praise His name in the dance", along with instruments.

Ps 150:1-4- 1- "Praise God in His Sanctuary". 3- Praise Him with more instruments. 4- Praise God with more instruments and with dance.

Notice in these Scriptures, God commands of us to praise Him in the Sanctuary- (Church), with new songs, with dancing and wih all types of instruments.

Now, if anyone wants to complain about that, go see God. Its God's Word, not mine that declares this.

But, I also have a question for the Leadership of this site.

BobW-

You stated because God shows in His Word we are to reject Prophets as being false ones, even for one false Prophecy. Interesting. So, if we are to go by that logic, how then, are we to deal with Christian religions?

God declares thru Paul, Peter and others, we are to be in unity of doctrine and teachings, beliefs, etc. Yet, there is not one Christian religion existing today, that teaches the "Whole" of God's Truths. They all have thier misconceptions, misinterpretations, etc. of different Scriptures.

How is it then, if we are to be forgiving. loving and compassionate towards others in the "Body" and entreat them with due honor and respect, and chastising and correcting in all love and honor and praise to God, accept them, if you still abide by fully and totaly rejecting any Prophet who messes up on even one Prophecy?

Where is the love? Where is the compassion enough to lovingly correct and try to redirect them, if totally rejeting them right off?

Treating them as a disease for a mistake, when we are all equally born in sin and are falable is not of God either.

Maybe you should go back to the Old and New tests. and read about God's loving corrections and chastisements of His Leaders when made mistakes, but no condemnations because of them, save King Saul who walked away by choice from God.

Correction, yes, chastisement as needed, yes, but always in Love, not condemnation.

God Bless!!

Sojourner · Veteran Long Time Friend of the Ministry

Here are my 2 cents worth from one who grew up in the Pentecostal denomination. What you see today is NOT what it used to be. I remember as a small child up through my teen years that many sermons by the pastors we had scared the stuffin out of me. Why? Because they were fire and brimstone sermons. Preaching against living in sin were common. Preaching on heaven and hell were common. There were still our misconceptions concerning certain "verbal" gifts but those gifts were not exploited as they are today. The focus was holiness to God. Today, however, we have the "stage preformance" to lead us into worship. Which by the way, my belief is that we should do as 2 Timothy 4: 2 states: "Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching." I would hate to approach my Lord for advice or help and him say, "wait a minute and let me get in the mood."

I have over the years seen the Pentecostal church go from the above to preaching to itching ears concerning prosperity and glorifying some spiritual gifts. I am ready to go in another direction as God leads. But I have told him numerous times I will not move to the right or left until HE directs. So here I stand waiting for his leading.

bobw · administrator

Saint,
In answer to your question, I must admit that there are many others I would suggest could be here on this site but we are limited to just one person in this Ministry. Me. I just do not have the time to investigate all that I would like to. As for Pat Robertson, I agree that he teaches pretty straight language that is in line with Scripture, but he has made some prophesies that have just not come true and as we know, if a Prophet makes a false prophecy, then he is false according to God. Once again, as I like to say....I didn't make the rules.
As for investigating others, I am always ready to accept help from others if they feel led to do some investigating and send me the files, I would be more than grateful and will read them over and include them on the website.

-- Edited by bobw at 21:23, 2007-12-02

wordworker · Lifelong Friend of the Ministry

I agree that Shepherd's Chapel is heretical in many ways. It needs to be exposed but, because of the "itching ears" syndrome (people want to hear pleasant lies ... and that is most often something along the lines of "God wants you rich!" rather than "God isn't a trinity") those who teach "word" are much more dangerous because of the numbers they deceive.
Shepherd's Chapel is, at most, a VERY SMALL frog in the middle of Lake Michigan compared to the number of followers someone like Copeland or Dollar affect.
I'd like to see deceivers of different branches exposed, too, Saint ... but most of those on TV right now are Charismatic (rather than old-fashioned Pentecostal) so those are the ones that most people recognize.
If you have other examples, bring 'em on! I'd love to see them.

The Saint · Veteran Long Time Friend of the Ministry

I'm curious as to why it seems that the "wolves" exposed on this website are limited to only Charismatics and Pentecostals. While I agree that those exposed (except Pat Robertson) are truly wolves, I wonder why the absence of others. For example, The Shepherd's Chapel is a large TV ministry which I believe is clearly a heretical cult. They are non-Trinitarians teaching modalism, they teach that Eve had sex with the serpent, spawning Cain, and they have sketchy teachings on the physical resurrections of Christ and believers. They also teach other heresies and non-heretical but nevertheless offensive things like that interracial marriage is not to be practiced. Please add this ministry to your list of "False/Confused Preachers."