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why wouldn't we need all three? Repentence, baptism, Holy spirit infilling. Why wouldn't you want to get all you can from God? or are you just satified with the sinners prayer. If thats all you want then thats all you'll get.

Psa 119:2 Blessed are they that keep his testimonies, and that seek him with the whole heart.

Deu 6:5 And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

Not with just the mouth.

heart, soul, might.

Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Joh 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Zec 4:6 Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts.

1. repentence starts in the heart.
2. baptism is a public expression. I do believe in death bed repentance.
3. Holy spirit is enpowerment.

Jesus is our Father of Creation, Son in redemption, and Holy Spirit in regeneration.

Act 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Peter said it, I didn't. or was he wrong? Did he interperet Jesus correctly according to Matt 28:19 or do we have a contradiction of scripture?
Maybe Peter wasn't there when Jesus said what he said. the other apostles backed him up because they sure didn't dispute it. Jesus TOLD PETER, "I GIVE YOU THE KEYS TO THE KINGDOM"

These are the steps to the enterance of the kingdom, I do believe there are some exeptions, but if youve had a life time of hearing it, then thats between you and God. hey I hope your right, that would be awesome. I know I sure wouldn't take the chance at eternity.

-- Edited by Chris at 00:12, 2008-03-13

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you haven't heard of Oprahs newventure?

here it is, they try to incorporate the teachings of jesus to become a "better self"

its all about self empowerment



-- Edited by Chris at 23:56, 2008-03-12

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Chris, What are you talking about? I don't want to seem rude, but this post is pretty much incoherent. Also is there a difference in your church between baptism and Jesus' name baptism? And do we need both? You also say that you prefer the "old fashioned" way to salvation. Aren't you a non-trinitarian Jesus only guy? That movement is only about 100 years old, so historically speaking it's not old fashioned at all.

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As long as she reveals the truth that salvation is through Jesus Christ, and that he is the Door. Without him we are nothing. Then I have no problem with it, but I highly doubt it. Are we totally dependent on him? or can we do it ourselves? Have we as a people EVOLVED spiritually to the point that we do not need to enter in the same way we have always come into the Kingdom. Maybe Oprah has discovered some new revelation in the bible where the flesh and spirit can walk hand in hand in peace and tranquility.

I still havn't forgotten the message The Apostle Peter preached on the day of pentecost where he laid out the basics of entrance into the kingdom. Slowly it seems that people are finding a more comfortable route? or are they? Im sorry, I believe I like the Old fashion way, and will preach it until I leave this short life. Good old repentace, baptism, and Jesus Name baptism never hurt anyone physically. It'll sure hurt the pride, but what of it? I wonder if she mentions Hell as an alternative route to those who do believe and obey the gospel?


Nope sorry give me a good old apostilic move of God, one with Demonstration and Power, where the gifts of the spirit are building up the Body, not the human spirit finding self?! I believe this stuff is Good if you are not searching for an intimate walk with God, but if you want that then Pick up that old cross and follow him, lol

sorry the Old fashion way is best. Seek God, pray, fast, meditate ON THE WORD, listen for his voice, DESIRE TO SEE HIS FACE, and walk with him, thats it plain and simple.

Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Gal 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
Gal 1:10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.

Amen Brother Paul! He said it best!!
This Gospel of self help without Jesus Christ--here it is i am going to say it with all love in my heart--it is of the Devil. I am here to warn you
1Co 14:10 There are, it may be, so many kinds of voices in the world, and none of them is without signification.

1Co 14:12 Even so ye, forasmuch as ye are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek that ye may excel to the edifying of the church.

Seek spiritual gifts that YE MAY EXCEL to the edifying of the church. Wow!! Paul is droping some heat right here.Please people dont be so easily deceived, and if you have finished reading this post, THIS WORD WILL PROTECT YOUR HEART.

God Bless



-- Edited by Chris at 20:18, 2008-03-11

-- Edited by Chris at 20:18, 2008-03-11

-- Edited by Chris at 20:18, 2008-03-11

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