Miracles and healings are NOT the way to judge a ministry. The Bible says many will say to Him, "Lord, Lord. Did we not prophesy in your name?" and His answer will be, "Depart from me you workers of iniquity I KNOW YOU NOT." It also says the Antichrist will "call fire down from heaven" and do other signs and wonders to "deceive... the very elect" (if that were possible.) The ONLY way to tell if a prophet is of God is the way it is done on this board ... by checking their prophecies against their results ... less than 100% accuracy means they are FALSE PROPHETS ... period.
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"I had been eagerly planning to write to you about the salvation we all share. But now I find that I must write about something else, urging you to defend the faith that God has entrusted once for all time to His holy people." Jude 3 Joyce
i only check the fruits of these so called FALSE PROPHETS,if there is salvation miracles and healing in the name of JESUS,it` good enough for me.Religion what a curse on belivers minds.i`m also happy that the last word God will have it ,all the rest does not count.i`m frilled that Jesus operated miracles in a spectacular way,and He also said to the belivers:you will do even greater things.Dont forget that a false prophet is there also to discredit God's work.
-- Edited by God is not religion at 10:24, 2008-08-17
The New Testament is very clear that we are to be wary of false prophets. ESPECIALLY if you believe that we are near the end times. The writers on this website have done a good job exposing a false prophet here, as the Bible's definition of a true prophet is that they are NEVER wrong. As far as I have seen, they don't question his salvation (I might though) they only question his claim to be God's prophet. It is obvious that he is not.
My responce would be this; if Jesus himself only ever took sustaining provisions or someone elses kindness of a bed, if Paul seemed to have pride in the fact he took nothing from those he was ministering too, the other Apostles only took as Christ took, why would ANY minister today need all of the money they beg for? Paul even made tents to sustain himself. Jesus sent the Apostles out with nothing, they went in faith. I guess the faith of Americas "great men of God" is slipping when they need 20 million dollar jets to get places and million dollar plus houses to live in. It is not hard to see where their reward is. What happened to Matthew 6:4? Those guys are blatantly doing it in the open. Seems to me the "storehouse" to them is their bankroll with blind sheep sustaining them. Sadly many of those blind sheep will find they may be goats on judgment day. "Lord, Lord did we not...depart from me".
David was already King when he committed his wrongs. The final judgement to be made is by God's Word. Jesus stated that in the last days many false prophets would come to lead even the very elect away from the true Word if that were possible. Not only this false prophet (Clement) but pay attention to how many so called men are prostituting God's Word for what? Earthly gain. Those who prosper from misusing God's Word have their treasure and will be held accountable not by man, but God himself, and "oops God I'm sorry" on that day will not do. Do you honestly believe the man named Benny Hinn can actually "throw" the Holy Spirit? God also gave us common sense even if you ignore scripture. Scripture is God's authority, it is not to be changed, bent to suit or profited from. Just becaue a man claims to have a "call" on his life does not mean it is "the" call from God.
If you saw a train flying down a railroad track toward a trestle that had collapsed what would be the loving thing to do? Would you assume the engineer knew what he was doing and allow him to pull a loaded train into a raging river? Or be afraid that to stop the train would make the engineer mad at you? Or ... should you build a bonfire on the tracks to get the engineer's attention, jump up and down and scream at the top of your lungs that the train must STOP ... ANYTHING to save the lives of those on the train??? All the people who run this forum are trying to do is to WARN PEOPLE THAT THE BRIDGE IS OUT AHEAD. You can't get to New York if you head west out of Chicago on I 80 ... and you can't get to Heaven if you don't go by the only Way we have. The Way called Jesus. Jesus isn't a vending machine you can put in a dollar and take your pick of treats. You can't "confess" your way to Heaven by saying the right words and you can't "buy" your way to Heaven by paying the right church ... the only way to get to Heaven is a way of self-denial and obedience to Jesus. Thanks Bob for keeping us up to date on dangerous developments in the church.
-- Edited by wordworker at 22:03, 2007-08-16
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"I had been eagerly planning to write to you about the salvation we all share. But now I find that I must write about something else, urging you to defend the faith that God has entrusted once for all time to His holy people." Jude 3 Joyce
hi, i know a preacher that committed adultery and was also a murderer,i think is name was DAVID.Our Great Father in Heaven transformed this phalse prophet in to a King.We all do Mistakes,people cannot forgive like God does.if one is a murderer he will allways be a murderer according to human nature.Thanks God for His Mercy.if we spend all our valuble time looking at other peoples faults we get distracted from our selfs.would you like your own life video with all secrets and faults shown to the all world?dont think so.as Yashua said to the accusers of the prostitute,who is without sin ,cast the first stone.critisizing a dear brother with fault(maybe)in front of every non beliver is just not christian(this is biblical).let God bless kim clement like you woul like to be blessed.i pray that we all be blessed .i love you in Yashua's name, martin
Greetings Holly, We do supply many ways of contacting us. We have a contact page which I have included below. Also there are numerous email clicks for us on many different pages. I am not attacking MR. Clement himself in the manner you may think. I am attacking if you wish to call it that, his claim to be a prophet. The Bible tells us in no uncertain terms in Deuteronomy18:22 that if a man who claims to be a prophet makes a prophesy that does not come true then that man spoke words which did not come from the Lord. Mr. Clement has made MANY such prophesies. He also made the claim that he was told to go to America but that he stayed in Africa to "practice" being a prophet. One does not practice being a prophet. He either is or isn't. If people like myself do not show these untruths to others , then we take the risk of these others being lost and led astray which then lays their blood on our hands. See Ezekiel 33:6 God Bless you Holly. We do pray that you would understand why myself and others do what we do. Please read the webpage: www.forgottenword.org/scriptures.html
In Christ Love, we do love and pray for you as we do believe you are one of Christ's children. Rev. Wise
A preacher in those days, when he felt God called him to preach, didn't hunt up a college or seminary, he hunted up a good horse, took off across the country and began crying "Behold the Lamb of God, that taketh away the sins of the world"!
Mr Wise, I feel saddened at the thought that you would self righteously attack someone and leave no email address to reply ones comments to you, the accuser. This makes me question your integrity and not the prophet you felt you needed to discredit. Maybe you should just pray for Kim Clement. I think God is big enough.